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		<title>By: Gillian</title>
		<link>http://www.polyamorousmisanthrope.com/2007/12/10/but-i-need-you/comment-page-1/#comment-3454</link>
		<dc:creator>Gillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend of mine once put it very beautifully, when she and her husband married.

&quot;I *could* like without you. I&#039;d just really rather not.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine once put it very beautifully, when she and her husband married.</p>
<p>&#8220;I *could* like without you. I&#8217;d just really rather not.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://www.polyamorousmisanthrope.com/2007/12/10/but-i-need-you/comment-page-1/#comment-3199</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 09:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But it’s not necessary to get one’s needs for love, sex and a sense of belonging from one individual - nor, I think, is it wise. Certainly, the more I’ve learned to reach out beyond partnered relationships for some of my psycho-emotional needs, the better those partnerships have become, because they are willing partnerships among equals. Nobody likes being held hostage to another’s needs.&lt;/i&gt;

Coming at this from the perspective of someone who did polyamory for a while and gave it up:  It&#039;s interesting that the above sentiment is so often upheld as a reason for being polyamorous.  Whatever reason an individual person has for being poly within an emotionally healthy context, with consenting adult partners, etc., is OK, but can I just say that you don&#039;t HAVE to be poly to accomplish being your own person?  It is possible to have some of your psycho-emotional needs met by your partner and/or other people, while NOT making relationship/romantic partners out of those other people, and STILL be your own person.

I am not trying to convert anyone here, but it seems like people trap themselves in all manner of mental boxes and think they &quot;have&quot; to be one way or another.  Then, five years down the road they figure out they were approaching everything all wrong from the word &quot;go&quot; and wound up making the wrong choice for themselves.  It&#039;s kinda sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But it’s not necessary to get one’s needs for love, sex and a sense of belonging from one individual &#8211; nor, I think, is it wise. Certainly, the more I’ve learned to reach out beyond partnered relationships for some of my psycho-emotional needs, the better those partnerships have become, because they are willing partnerships among equals. Nobody likes being held hostage to another’s needs.</i></p>
<p>Coming at this from the perspective of someone who did polyamory for a while and gave it up:  It&#8217;s interesting that the above sentiment is so often upheld as a reason for being polyamorous.  Whatever reason an individual person has for being poly within an emotionally healthy context, with consenting adult partners, etc., is OK, but can I just say that you don&#8217;t HAVE to be poly to accomplish being your own person?  It is possible to have some of your psycho-emotional needs met by your partner and/or other people, while NOT making relationship/romantic partners out of those other people, and STILL be your own person.</p>
<p>I am not trying to convert anyone here, but it seems like people trap themselves in all manner of mental boxes and think they &#8220;have&#8221; to be one way or another.  Then, five years down the road they figure out they were approaching everything all wrong from the word &#8220;go&#8221; and wound up making the wrong choice for themselves.  It&#8217;s kinda sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivonne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivonne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with this. In fact, not needing someone that you are intimate with truly frees you up to be yourself in the relationship. It deepens the sense of connection between the individuals involved. 

Financial needs are but one thing. Emotional needs are far more disabling in a relationship. I have found that in relationships I am the only one responsible for filling my emotional needs. Not burdening others with that frees them as well as me.

Ivonne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with this. In fact, not needing someone that you are intimate with truly frees you up to be yourself in the relationship. It deepens the sense of connection between the individuals involved. </p>
<p>Financial needs are but one thing. Emotional needs are far more disabling in a relationship. I have found that in relationships I am the only one responsible for filling my emotional needs. Not burdening others with that frees them as well as me.</p>
<p>Ivonne</p>
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		<title>By: Leela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for posting this. It&#039;s articulated something I&#039;ve been feeling in my current relationship for a while, but can&#039;t get my partner to comprehend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for posting this. It&#8217;s articulated something I&#8217;ve been feeling in my current relationship for a while, but can&#8217;t get my partner to comprehend.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must concur with you in general.  &quot;Needing&quot;someone because your life is better with him/her/them, because they are a great support system, etc., is perfectly healthy, if it&#039;s reciprocal.  But &quot;needing&quot; someone in that sense does not mean that if you lose him/her/them you will die.  Like you said, it will hurt and be hard to deal with.  But it won&#039;t be the end of the world.  

If you &quot;need someone&quot; because you can&#039;t get laid otherwise, you got a lot more problems than can be dealt with in one half-hour session.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must concur with you in general.  &#8220;Needing&#8221;someone because your life is better with him/her/them, because they are a great support system, etc., is perfectly healthy, if it&#8217;s reciprocal.  But &#8220;needing&#8221; someone in that sense does not mean that if you lose him/her/them you will die.  Like you said, it will hurt and be hard to deal with.  But it won&#8217;t be the end of the world.  </p>
<p>If you &#8220;need someone&#8221; because you can&#8217;t get laid otherwise, you got a lot more problems than can be dealt with in one half-hour session.</p>
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		<title>By: Acer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Acer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t help but agree with what you are saying. It would terrify me to lose someone beyond how I already feel (my already heightened fear of loss) if I truly thought life would never become fulfilling again after I lost them. However, what about knowing that you would never have that particular flavor of experience and dynamic without that particular person and fearing or grieving THAT loss? I know that every relationship is its own. unique, irreplaceable, wonderful self.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t help but agree with what you are saying. It would terrify me to lose someone beyond how I already feel (my already heightened fear of loss) if I truly thought life would never become fulfilling again after I lost them. However, what about knowing that you would never have that particular flavor of experience and dynamic without that particular person and fearing or grieving THAT loss? I know that every relationship is its own. unique, irreplaceable, wonderful self.</p>
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		<title>By: kightp</title>
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		<dc:creator>kightp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are needs, and there are needs: Abraham Maslow, for one noteworthy example, put the need for love/belonging smack in the middle of his &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heirarchy_of_needs#Love.2FBelonging.2FSocial_needs&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Heirarchy of Needs&lt;/a&gt; essential to the psychological development of human beings, and in my experience, he got a lot of that right.

But it&#039;s not necessary to get one&#039;s needs for love, sex and a sense of belonging  from one individual - nor, I think, is it wise. Certainly, the more I&#039;ve learned to reach out beyond partnered relationships for some of my psycho-emotional needs, the better those partnerships have become, because they are willing partnerships among equals. Nobody likes being held hostage to another&#039;s needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are needs, and there are needs: Abraham Maslow, for one noteworthy example, put the need for love/belonging smack in the middle of his <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heirarchy_of_needs#Love.2FBelonging.2FSocial_needs" rel="nofollow">Heirarchy of Needs</a> essential to the psychological development of human beings, and in my experience, he got a lot of that right.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s not necessary to get one&#8217;s needs for love, sex and a sense of belonging  from one individual &#8211; nor, I think, is it wise. Certainly, the more I&#8217;ve learned to reach out beyond partnered relationships for some of my psycho-emotional needs, the better those partnerships have become, because they are willing partnerships among equals. Nobody likes being held hostage to another&#8217;s needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Sady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As my mother always said (but rarely ever listened to) - You should want your partner more than you need them. Though she utterly failed in this area, I&#039;ve managed to pull it off, despite a seemingly &quot;co-dependant&quot; status as a housewife. 

I&#039;m not a non-partner non-equal because, unlike the women you describe, I do  know that I have marketable skills. I chose this path on my own and my partner supported my decision. I could choose otherwise any day I like and he&#039;d be equally supportive. That&#039;s what really makes it work - listening to each others dreams and desires and supporting the process it takes to achieve them.

Should my husband die tomorrow, or we get a divorce today, I know where to go to get any help I&#039;d need, and I know that I could get a normal 9-5 with very little effort. I think that everyone should know what to do in such an instance, just like knowing where the escape routes in your house are if there is ever a fire. You don&#039;t wish for the worst, but you certainly plan for how you will cope with it. Anyone NOT doing that in their relationship is taking for granted the permanency of their relationship and their partners mortality, and setting themselves up for one hard life lesson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As my mother always said (but rarely ever listened to) &#8211; You should want your partner more than you need them. Though she utterly failed in this area, I&#8217;ve managed to pull it off, despite a seemingly &#8220;co-dependant&#8221; status as a housewife. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a non-partner non-equal because, unlike the women you describe, I do  know that I have marketable skills. I chose this path on my own and my partner supported my decision. I could choose otherwise any day I like and he&#8217;d be equally supportive. That&#8217;s what really makes it work &#8211; listening to each others dreams and desires and supporting the process it takes to achieve them.</p>
<p>Should my husband die tomorrow, or we get a divorce today, I know where to go to get any help I&#8217;d need, and I know that I could get a normal 9-5 with very little effort. I think that everyone should know what to do in such an instance, just like knowing where the escape routes in your house are if there is ever a fire. You don&#8217;t wish for the worst, but you certainly plan for how you will cope with it. Anyone NOT doing that in their relationship is taking for granted the permanency of their relationship and their partners mortality, and setting themselves up for one hard life lesson.</p>
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		<title>By: Dagain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dagain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been learning these painful lessons recently, and am so much better off for knowing them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been learning these painful lessons recently, and am so much better off for knowing them.</p>
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		<title>By: fraggle</title>
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		<dc:creator>fraggle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post reminds me a lot of an article a friend of mine wrote years ago that resonated a lot.

*rummages about for URL*

here ya go:

http://ucsub.colorado.edu/~rcrane/sweet.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post reminds me a lot of an article a friend of mine wrote years ago that resonated a lot.</p>
<p>*rummages about for URL*</p>
<p>here ya go:</p>
<p><a href="http://ucsub.colorado.edu/~rcrane/sweet.htm" rel="nofollow">http://ucsub.colorado.edu/~rcrane/sweet.htm</a></p>
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